Llandough Community Council. Thursday 22 October 2026, 7.00pm
Preserving our identity.
Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr, Llandough: meeting pack for Item 10
Mr Paul R. Egan, Clerk to Llandough Community Council
By email: [email protected]
21 October 2026
Council meeting, 22 October 2026 — Item 10: Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr
Dear Mr Egan,
Thank you for your email, for listing our request as Item 10 and for the Zoom details. As published, Item 10 records two practical requests. It does not yet tell councillors or the public what the matter is. This pack sets it out, and we ask:
- That the Clerk and Chair confirm whether, under the Council's standing orders and applicable notice requirements, the expanded wording on page 2 can be issued as a supplementary or revised agenda by Saturday 17 October. If permitted, please circulate it to all members and publish it. If not, please confirm the proper route and retain request 5 below as the fallback.
- That this pack is circulated to all members with the meeting papers and retained with the record of the meeting.
- That the Chair allows the family up to ten minutes when Item 10 is reached, in addition to the public session.
- That our letters of 12 October (internal review, environmental-information request, subject access request and preservation request) are listed under Item 16, and that the internal review is conducted by someone other than the officer who made the original decision.
- If the agenda cannot be amended in time, that a full item in the terms on page 2 is placed on the agenda for the next ordinary meeting, and that this is minuted on 22 October.
We are not asking the Council to decide title, fraud, or whether any court judgment was right. We are asking it to put the matter properly on the public record and decide what it can do within its own powers.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler, grandson of Mary Williams of Great House Farm
In this pack: 1 Letter. 2 Replacement wording for Item 10 and draft resolutions. 3 Running order. 4 Statement. 5 The briefing: nine compartments. 6 Disclosure and risks. 7 Records access. 8 Rights and sources.
2 Replacement wording for Item 10
We ask that the heading of Item 10 is replaced with the following, so that members and the public have proper notice:
10. Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr, Llandough (demolished 6 December 1988): heritage, public record, community history, and the issues, risks and concerns raised by the family's research and records requests. To receive a statement and meeting pack from the Williams–Buckler family and to consider:
- a) receiving the family's statement and pack into the record of this meeting;
- b) placing Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr on future agendas as a standing item and appointing a councillor as liaison;
- c) recommending to the Senedd that an independent inquiry be considered;
- d) acknowledging the harm suffered by the family and supporting their access to trauma-informed counselling;
- e) writing to Cadw, the Vale of Glamorgan Council, HM Land Registry, Amgueddfa Cymru, the National Library of Wales and the Ministry of Justice in support of disclosure to the family and preservation of records;
- f) arrangements for the internal review, environmental-information request and subject access request received on 12 October 2026, and preservation of related records;
- g) revising the Council's published village history to record Great House, its manorial role, the 1988 demolition and the published cemetery excavation;
- h) a working group to scope an interpretation board or memorial near the green, and the family's offer of a talk (as previously listed);
- i) forwarding the family's invitation to former members, former clerks and long-standing residents of the 1950s–1990s (as previously listed);
- j) reflecting Tŷ Mawr's heritage in the Council's work under Items 12 and 14.
2 Draft resolutions
In priority order. A councillor may wish to give notice of motion in these terms.
- Put it on the record. That the Council receives the statement and meeting pack of the Williams–Buckler family, records them in the minutes, and publishes them with the papers for this meeting.The Council's published village-history page omits Great House. Receiving this statement would place the Buckler case in the record of this meeting.
- Make it a standing item. That “Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr” is placed on the agenda of each ordinary meeting until the Council resolves otherwise, and that Councillor ______ acts as the Council's liaison with the family.This is the first meeting, not the last. Detail belongs to later meetings, in public, with papers in advance.
- Recommend an independent inquiry. That the Council writes to the Senedd's Petitions Committee and Culture Committee and to the area's Members of the Senedd, recommending that an independent inquiry be considered into the dispossession of the Williams–Buckler family, the demolition of Great House in 1988, the handling of the site's heritage, and the records since; and that it supports any petition the family brings.The Vale's scrutiny team declined because the matter is already before the Welsh Government, Cadw, MSs and MPs. That makes it a Senedd-level question. The Senedd has already advised the family to petition.
- Acknowledge the harm. That the Council acknowledges the distress and indignity suffered by the Williams–Buckler family in the 1988 dispossession and since, and writes to Cardiff and Vale University Health Board supporting the family's access to trauma-informed counselling.Three generations lived through the evictions, the demolition and 38 years without a hearing. Recognition costs the Council nothing.
- Speak up for disclosure. That the Clerk writes on the Council's behalf to Cadw, the Vale of Glamorgan Council, HM Land Registry, Amgueddfa Cymru and the National Library of Wales, and to the Ministry of Justice about its outstanding reply to Stephen Doughty MP, copied to Mr Doughty and the area's Members of the Senedd, supporting full and prompt disclosure to the family and the preservation of all records meanwhile.A letter from the community's own council carries weight no family letter can. It asks for openness, not a verdict.
- Open the Council's own records. That the internal review of the 11 October refusal is conducted by a person other than the officer who made it; that the environmental-information request and the subject access request of 12 October are each answered under their own law and time limit; and that all Council records concerning Great House, Church View Close and village green VG41 are preserved.The refusal priced the request at 224 sets of minutes and gave figures that do not reconcile. Land and heritage records can fall under the Environmental Information Regulations, which have no automatic cost cap.
- Correct the Council's own history. That the Council's published village history is revised, with heritage advice and the family's input, to record Great House, the manorial courts held there, its demolition in 1988, and the 1,026 inhumation burials reported in the published excavation study.The page gives “over 800 burials” (the published report counts 1,026), dates the Roman villa to the 1990s (it was excavated in 1978–79), and does not mention Great House, the Williams family or the demolition.
- Mark it on the ground. That a working group is set up to scope an interpretation board or memorial near the green, covering St Dochdwy's monastery, the 1,026 early medieval burials, Great House and the manor, the 1897 wireless trials and Peerless Jim Driscoll, with wording checked against sources and agreed with the family; and to explore a Llandough companion to the Marconi artwork on the Cardiff Barrage; that the working group consults the residents of Church View Close, St Dochdwy's parish and the family before any wording is agreed; and that the Council asks Amgueddfa Cymru what is planned for the long-term care of the human remains excavated in 1994, including whether reburial near the church has been considered.There is nothing on the ground that records any of it. The family has offered a free talk to the Council or residents.
- Find the witnesses. That the Council forwards the family's invitation to former members, former clerks and long-standing residents, leaving it to them whether to make contact; no personal details to be disclosed without consent.This is the request already listed as Item 10(a). Forwarding an invitation discloses nobody's data.
- Carry it into tonight's other business. That Tŷ Mawr's heritage, including Peerless Jim Driscoll and the 1897 wireless trials, is considered in the Council's response to the Welsh Government call for evidence on culture and sport (Item 14, closing 18 December 2026) and in the heritage and identity of the proposed Llandough and Cwrtyrala Community Council (Item 12).The agenda already asks the Council to think about Welsh culture, sport and local identity. Here is Llandough's strongest example.
4 Statement to the Council
About three minutes. For the public participation session (Item 4), and for the record.
Chair, councillors, thank you for allowing me to speak on Item 10.
My grandmother was Mary Williams of Great House Farm, Tŷ Mawr. Our family's case is that its connection to the house goes back to 1667. A 1958 newspaper report and Mary's later statement recorded that claim, but the full chain of occupation and title remains contested. The house was demolished before dawn on 6 December 1988.
I am not asking this Council to decide a land-title dispute or to find that anyone acted improperly. I am asking for the surviving records to be disclosed, preserved and examined, and for Tŷ Mawr to be acknowledged in the history of this community.
First, the heritage. Heneb's Historic Environment Record says the manorial courts of Llandough and Leckwith were held at Great House. The local plan called for the buildings to be retained, but the house was demolished before a complete record of the building was made.
A published archaeological study reports 1,026 early-medieval burials from an excavation in the wider area in 1994. I am not claiming that this proves the burials lay within our particular parcel, or that the monastery's exact location is known. These records make a better account of the wider landscape worthwhile. The Council's published village history does not mention Great House or its demolition.
Second, my grandmother's home and the property records. In February 1983, while Mary was still living there, BP applied to register the farmhouse under a separate title. She died the following month. In February 1987, that title was amalgamated with the adjoining fields while the litigation was continuing. These events should be traced through the original deeds, plans and registration papers.
The family lost the possession proceedings. The Court of Appeal rejected our adverse-possession argument, including in light of the 1974 letters. I respect that judgment, and I am not asking this Council to overturn it or determine ownership. My present questions concern the wider conveyance and registration history. They should be tested against the original records, not assumed in our favour.
Third, disclosure. I have made specific records requests to more than twenty bodies. Cadw has supplied two photographs, but a complete 1988 assessment file and a destruction record have not been produced. The Land Registry's schedule of 43 documents does not identify the 1969 deed recited in the title history. A missing record does not, by itself, prove concealment. It does warrant a clear account of what searches were made, what survives and what cannot be found.
So I ask for four practical steps: receive and minute my statement and pack; make Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr a standing agenda item with a named councillor; write to the relevant record-holding bodies in support of disclosure and preservation; and recommend that the Senedd consider an independent inquiry.
We are not seeking anyone's home at Church View Close. We ask for a fair examination of the records and recognition of Tŷ Mawr in our community's history.
Your mission is “Serving our community, preserving our identity”. Tŷ Mawr belongs in that history. Thank you.
Sixty-second version
Chair, councillors, thank you. Our family's case traces its connection to Great House Farm, Tŷ Mawr, to 1667; that history remains contested, which is why the records matter. The house was demolished before dawn on 6 December 1988. Heneb records the manorial courts of Llandough and Leckwith at Great House. A 1994 excavation in the wider area recorded 1,026 early-medieval burials, but their location within our parcel has not been established. The family lost the possession proceedings, and the Court of Appeal rejected the adverse-possession argument. I am not asking this Council to overturn that judgment. Please minute our statement, make Tŷ Mawr a standing item with a named councillor, support disclosure and preservation, and recommend that the Senedd consider an independent inquiry. We are not seeking anyone's home. Tŷ Mawr belongs in our community's history. Thank you.
5 The briefing
Nine compartments, in order. Say the line in bold, then move on. Open a compartment only if a councillor asks: the record is underneath, with what is still being tested and the answer to the obvious objection.
Research has only started. The family does not claim that fraud, deliberate concealment or improper government involvement has been established or that the legal threshold to reopen the case has been met. Some records have been disclosed; others are missing, reported destroyed, not yet produced or still under review. The public record establishes important facts but leaves specific title and procedural questions unresolved.
From the family's public registers on the Great House Farm Wiki: 86 open lines of enquiry · 54 records missing or withheld · 20+ bodies asked since November 2025.
C1 Who we are
Our family's case traces its connection to Tŷ Mawr to 1667, a date reported in the 1958 press and in Mary's later statement. The full chain of occupation and title remains contested.
On the record
- Heneb's Historic Environment Record says the manorial courts of Llandough and Leckwith were held at Great House. On record
- Mary Williams's statement of about 1974, and the 1974 press, record the family at Great House since 1667. Buckler case
- William Buckler was born in the house. In 1988 three small children lived there. On record
- Trade directories from 1868 to 1901 list “Williams John, Great house”; an 1892 press report names “Mr. John Williams, Great House Farm, Llandough” (wiki EV-0225, EV-0226). On record
- The 1881 census lists John Williams, farmer, at “Llandough Home Farm” (RG11/5288 p.2, wiki EV-0224). Per Sion Buckler, this is Great House Farm under another name. On record
- The Western Mail, 20 November 1958 (snippet only, wiki EV-0037), reported the land as “farmed by her family since 1667”. On record
Still being tested
- No deed of 1667 has yet been found. The 1670 hearth tax and Bute estate leases are being searched. Being sought
What cuts against us
- The heritage record says the Vaughans held Great House as the chief freehold farm from the mid-16th to the late 18th century. Both accounts can be true only if the Williamses held under them. On record
- A 1904 report says John Williams “succeeded his father in the tenancy of the farm in 1855” (wiki EV-0227): a tenancy, and of “Llandough Farm”, matched to Great House by inference. On record
- “Home Farm” appears in no other source, and the 1881 acreage may read 170, closer to the neighbouring Llandough Farm of the Rees family (wiki EV-0228). Being sought
If asked “Weren't you tenants?” The 1939 tenancy plan, now held, depicts the eastern fields only, not the house. Mary refused the tenancies offered for the house.
Evidence: Wiki: The Williams / Buckler Family · Wiki: Mary Williams's Statement (c. 1974) · Heneb HER GGAT02038s
C2 What lies there
A published study reports 1,026 early-medieval burials from an excavation in the wider area in 1994. It has not been shown that those burials lay within our particular parcel, and the monastery's exact site remains unestablished.
On the record
- A published study reports 1,026 early-medieval burials from the 1994 excavation in the wider area; it has not been shown that they lay within the family's particular parcel. On record
- St Dochdwy's monastery is attested from the 7th century. Heneb says its exact site has not been established. On record
- Medieval pottery was found on the slope beside the house in 1962–63. The Roman villa south of the church is a separate site. On record
- Published sources record Peerless Jim Driscoll's first fight in a barn at Great House Farm. On record
- Marconi's 1897 wireless trials crossed from Lavernock to Flat Holm. On record
Still being tested
- Family tradition that Thomas Williams of Great House carted Marconi's equipment. Buckler case
- Where the monastery stood. It is not proven to lie beneath Tŷ Mawr. Being sought
What cuts against us
- Museum Wales traces the medieval spur and spearhead linked to the “armour” story to Church Farm, 1858, not to Great House. On record
- It has not been shown that the 1994 burials lay on the family's own parcel. Being sought
If asked “Isn't this history already told?” The Council's own village history says 800 burials and does not mention Great House at all.
Evidence: Holbrook and Thomas, Medieval Archaeology 49 (2005) · Wiki: Archaeology and Heritage · Stead and Williams, Wales and its Boxers (2008)
C3 Mary's parcel
For decades Mary Williams said the house was hers. In February 1983, BP applied to register the farmhouse under a separate title while she lived there; she died the following month. The title was amalgamated with the adjoining fields in February 1987.
On the record
- April 1974: Mary opened the house to the public and told the Daily Telegraph it was hers. Her solicitors said she had a valid claim. On record
- She refused the tenancies offered for the house in 1959 and 1965. On record
- BP's 1974 action, in which she pleaded ownership, was adjourned and not relisted. On record
- 23 February 1983: BP's solicitors applied to register the farmhouse as a separate title, certifying no question or doubt. Mary died on 26 March 1983. On record
- 2 February 1987: that title was amalgamated into the fields title, before the Court of Appeal hearing. On record
- The 1939 tenancy plan depicts the eastern fields, Parcel B, only. On record
- The Land Registry's 43-item schedule does not list the 1969 deed recited as the root of BP's title. On record
Still being tested
- The family's case: two parcels since 1877, the house parcel theirs from 1928. Buckler case
- A 15 May 1924 agreement on the Land Registry file, not yet read. Being sought
- The “synthetic Parcel A” working hypothesis: that registration and merger made the house appear to follow the fields' title. Being sought
- Per the Buckler case: notice of registration reached them only after Mary's death. Buckler case
What cuts against us
- The 1916 tenancy described the farm as one holding, and later documents repeated that wording. On record
- HM Land Registry says there is no evidence of a mistake; its stage-two decision says the title is registered correctly. That decision is with the Independent Complaints Reviewer. On record
If asked “The register is conclusive.” I accept the register is important. I am asking for the supporting deeds and plans, and a reasoned response from HM Land Registry; I am not asking this Council to decide whether the register is wrong.
Evidence: Wiki: The Two Parcels · Wiki: Land Registry Titles · Wiki: Anomalies A-008 to A-012, A-025, A-026 · Wiki: 1987 HMLR amalgamation during appeal
C4 The courts
The family lost the possession proceedings. The Court of Appeal rejected the adverse-possession argument and considered the 1974 letters. I am not asking the Council to retry that case; I am asking for help with disclosure and a full documentary account.
On the record
- High Court 1986 and Court of Appeal 1987 decided possession. The House of Lords refused leave in 1988; Strasbourg found the application inadmissible in 1989. On record
- The Court of Appeal counted the possession period from a 1955 order. On record
- The appeal judgment notes certain documents were never produced. Mary's statement says the family's papers went missing in 1950–52. Buckler case
- On 5 December 1988 the court refused to wait for Strasbourg. The house came down the next morning. On record
- The House of Lords papers were identified on 23 September 2026 after earlier searches missed them. The Strasbourg file was destroyed in 2000. On record
Still being tested
- Procedural unfairness, court error and non-disclosure. Reopening needs new primary evidence; the Lords papers are not yet read. Being sought
What cuts against us
- The Court of Appeal found the 1974 letters made later occupation permissive, whether or not Mary accepted them. On record
- Strasbourg held the interference with William Buckler's home lawful and justified. On record
If asked “The courts have decided this.” They ruled against the family's possession case, including by considering the 1974 letters, and the Strasbourg application was declared inadmissible. I accept those outcomes. My present request is for records to be disclosed and examined, not for this Council to retry the case.
Evidence: BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2 · Wiki: BP v Buckler, Scope, Decided and Undecided · Wiki: Potential Miscarriage of Justice register
C5 The dispossession
In 1988 a Welsh family was removed from its home and the house demolished before dawn. It was reported as an eviction.
On the record
- Press, 29 April 1988: five bailiffs and about fifteen police; doors broken with poleaxes, children behind them. On record
- Press, December 1988: William Buckler injured, taken to hospital, and charged from his hospital bed. On record
- Press, 6 December 1988: bulldozers from about 4am; William's wife and their three children watched; nothing standing by breakfast. On record
- Press, 1989: the family's possessions lost and the family rehoused with relatives. On record
- Press: a Vale councillor called the demolition “disgusting”; villagers met their councillors. On record
Still being tested
- Per the Buckler case: police searched the house and removed documents. Buckler case
What cuts against us
- Press, 1989: one charge was withdrawn as out of time; William Buckler pleaded guilty to the others. On record
If asked “Why has it taken so long?” Witnesses died, papers were lost and the trauma silenced the family. Key records surfaced only in 2026.
Evidence: Wiki: 1988, Possession and Demolition · Press transcripts GHF-E090-N07 to N15
C6 The heritage erased
Great House was demolished on 6 December 1988, the day after Cadw refused listing. The local plan called for retention. Cadw has supplied two photographs, but a complete assessment file and a destruction record have not been produced.
On the record
- The Local Plan said the buildings should be retained. GGAT's 1989 report described the farmhouse as a “county treasure”. On record
- Cadw refused to list it on 5 December 1988. No assessment file or destruction record has been produced. On record
- GGAT warned in 1982. In 1990 untested ground was zoned low potential. Burials were found there in 1994. On record
- The heritage record classes the site “Post Medieval – Farm”. The Royal Commission recorded it only in part. On record
- A 1983 fire destroyed relics from years of excavations (South Wales Echo, 18 March 1983). On record
Still being tested
- Per the Buckler case: the fire was at a Neath store and Llandough material was lost. Buckler case
- Whether the 1990 evaluation was adequate on what was known then. Being sought
What cuts against us
- GGAT disclosed its dual role in 1990, recommended recording and protection, and did not advise demolition. On record
- Cadw said in 1988 that the house was not of sufficient architectural merit to list. On record
If asked “Missing records prove nothing.” Agreed. Missing records alone do not prove wrongdoing. I ask the bodies concerned to explain what was searched, what survives and what cannot be found.
Evidence: Wiki: Anomalies A-036 to A-052, PL-002 to PL-008 · Wiki: Missing Records M-018 to M-028
C7 The records wall
More than twenty bodies have received specific records requests over eighteen months. Several identified records remain outstanding; their absence alone does not prove concealment.
On the record
- 54 records identified as missing, withheld or not yet produced. On record
- The Ministry of Justice has not yet answered our MP. The Ministry of Defence will neither confirm nor deny whether it holds certain records. On record
- This Council refused on cost; a review is pending. The Vale's scrutiny team declined, citing the Welsh Government, Cadw, MSs and MPs. On record
- The Wales Office searched only digital records. Planning appendices B–E have not been produced. On record
Still being tested
- Fraud, deliberate concealment and improper government involvement are not established. Disclosure is the test, whichever way it falls. Being sought
What cuts against us
- Several bodies have disclosed material: the Royal Commission, Museum Wales, Cadw's photographs and the Land Registry schedule. On record
- A missing record is not, on its own, proof of concealment. On record
If asked “Isn't this a fishing expedition?” Each request identifies a record or a bounded class of records and seeks a recorded search, not a general trawl. I accept that several bodies have already disclosed material.
Evidence: Wiki: Missing Records Register · Wiki: Records Access Chronology · dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate
C8 Rights, identity, public interest
This is a matter of human rights, Welsh heritage and public interest, not one family's grievance.
On the record
- In 1989 Strasbourg accepted the possession order interfered with William Buckler's home, but held it justified. On record
- About a thousand people signed to save the house in 1974. An MP asked the Lord Chancellor to review the case in 1988. On record
- In 1980 the Commons heard Western Ground Rents called the most rapacious ground landlord in South Wales. On record
- The Western Mail, 20 November 1958 (snippet only, wiki EV-0037), reported Mrs Buckler's claim that the water was cut off from her house “for nearly 10 years by order of Western Ground Rents”, calling it “a Welsh case of Crichel Down”. That is a press report of her claim, and its date (about 1948–58) conflicts with a c.1988 date elsewhere (wiki SC-48). On record
- Tonight's agenda already asks about Welsh culture (Item 14) and local identity (Item 12). On record
Still being tested
- The family's view: Welsh land, history and identity were overridden and erased, as indigenous peoples' have been elsewhere. Buckler case
What cuts against us
- Indigenous-rights language is the family's framing; it is not a legal category UK courts currently apply to Wales. On record
If asked “Why should a community council get involved?” Its own mission is preserving our identity. It is the community's voice to the Senedd and the Vale.
Evidence: Hansard, 22 May 1980 · Buckler v United Kingdom (14464/88) · Wiki: Q&A, Human Rights and Public Law
C9 What we ask
Please minute our statement and pack; make Tŷ Mawr a standing item with a named councillor; support disclosure and preservation; and recommend that the Senedd consider an independent inquiry. We are not seeking anyone's home at Church View Close.
If asked “What can a community council do?” Record it, write letters, recommend an inquiry, and keep it on the agenda. That is how this starts.
Evidence: The ask, below
6 Where disclosure stands
| Ministry of Justice | The family records that a reply to Stephen Doughty MP remains outstanding; the probate request is on hold. |
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| Ministry of Defence | A separate request received a neither-confirm-nor-deny response under FOIA s.23(5). That response alone does not establish a link to the land dispute. |
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| This Council | The 11 October section 12 refusal is under internal review; the separate EIR and subject access requests were sent on 12 October. |
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| HM Land Registry | The disclosed 43-item schedule does not list the 1969 conveyance or 1971 abstract; preservation and access to the full first-registration files remain live issues. |
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| Cadw | Cadw says the 1988 assessment file was likely destroyed; no destruction record has been produced. |
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| Vale of Glamorgan | Planning Appendices B–E have not been produced; an internal review remains outstanding. |
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| Amgueddfa Cymru | Two earlier “not held” refusals were upheld on review. A response to FOI 2026-036 on 5 October disclosed Church Farm records (accession 63.24). The Wiki treats “Llandough Church Farm” as source-specific wording, not an established synonym for Great House Farm. |
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| The National Archives | The House of Lords bundle YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536 was identified on 23 September; it still needs to be obtained and examined. |
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No complaint has yet gone to the Information Commissioner or the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales. Those are the next steps if disclosure does not come.
6 If nothing is done
- Records keep disappearing. Preservation of the Land Registry files has not been confirmed. Every year without a hold is another chance of loss.
- Witnesses are dying. Mary died in 1983, William in 1992. People who remember the 1950s to the 1980s will not be here for long.
- The dead stay unmarked. 1,026 people from St Dochdwy's monastic cemetery, with nothing on the ground to say so.
- The wrong story becomes the official one. The heritage record classes the site as “Post Medieval – Farm”. The Council's own history omits it.
- The green has a history too. The family's case is that village green VG41 was part of their farm until 1955. The Council's records on it are among those requested.
8 Three rights, not one
| FOI | Freedom of Information Act 2000. General recorded information. Twenty working days. A council may refuse if compliance would cost more than £450 (18 hours at £25), but must estimate reasonably and offer advice to narrow the request. |
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| EIR | Environmental Information Regulations 2004. Information on land, development and the historic environment. Twenty working days. No automatic cost cap: refusal only if “manifestly unreasonable”, and then only if the public interest favours it. |
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| SAR | UK GDPR, Article 15. Information about the person asking. One month, free. Covers what the Council holds about the living family members; it does not cover records about people who have died. |
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8 Labels and sources
- On record Court, heritage record, archive, Hansard or contemporary newspaper
- Buckler case The Buckler case (named testimony or legal position), being tested
- Being sought Not yet established; records requested
- Agenda, Council meeting 22 October 2026 (issued 13 October 2026)
- Heneb Historic Environment Record GGAT02038s, Great House, Llandough
https://archwilio.org.uk/her/chi3/report/page.php?watprn=GGAT02038s - Holbrook and Thomas, The Early Medieval Monastic Cemetery at Llandough, Medieval Archaeology 49 (2005)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/007660905x54044 - Archaeology Data Service: Llandough cemetery archive
https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/llandough_cadw_2004 - Coflein NPRN 400051, Roman villa site, Llandough
https://coflein.gov.uk/en/site/400051/ - Llandough Community Council, About Llandough
https://www.llandough-cc.co.uk/About_Us_20117.aspx - Amgueddfa Cymru, GPO trials of Marconi in 1897
https://museum.wales/collections/online/object/5f7f51a9-7b6b-3956-84c9-31b5f96214aa/GPO-trials-of-Marconi-in-1897-booklet/ - Jim Driscoll (citing the National Monuments Record for Wales)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Driscoll - Stead and Williams (eds), Wales and its Boxers: The Fighting Tradition (University of Wales Press, 2008)
https://books.google.com/books?id=emMNAQAAMAAJ - BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2
https://vlex.co.uk/vid/b-p-properties-ltd-793844841 - Hansard, House of Commons, 22 May 1980 (Ted Rowlands MP on Western Ground Rents)
- Buckler v United Kingdom, European Commission of Human Rights, inadmissible 14 April 1989
- ICO: requests spanning FOI, EIR and data protection
https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi/freedom-of-information-and-environmental-information-regulations/calculating-costs-where-a-request-spans-different-access-regimes/ - Welsh Government: A vision for culture and sport in Wales, call for evidence
https://www.gov.wales/vision-culture-and-sport-wales-call-evidence - Vale of Glamorgan Council: Cllr George Carroll, Llandough ward
https://www.valeofglamorgan.gov.uk/en/our_council/Council-Structure/councillors/Carroll-George.aspx - The full story: bpvsbuckler.bucklerfamily.estate
https://bpvsbuckler.bucklerfamily.estate/ - Records-access tracker: dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate
https://dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate/ - Great House Farm Wiki — public documentary archive
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/ - Wiki: The Two Parcels — full Parcel A / separate eastern Parcel B
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/the-two-parcels/ - Wiki: 1939 revised tenancy agreement and plan
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/1939-revised-tenancy/ - Wiki EV-0224: 1881 census, RG11/5288 p.2, “Llandough Home Farm”
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence/ev-0224-1881-census-llandough-rg11-5288/ - Wiki EV-0225: trade directories 1868–1901, John Williams at Great House
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence/ev-0225-trade-directories-1868-1901-john-williams-great-house/ - Wiki EV-0226: South Wales Star, 1892, Great House Farm
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence/ev-0226-south-wales-star-1892-john-williams-great-house-farm/ - Wiki EV-0227: Cardiff Times, 1904, tenancy since 1855
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence/ev-0227-cardiff-times-1904-john-williams-tenancy-since-1855/ - Wiki: BP v Buckler — scope, decided and undecided
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/scrutiny-and-accountability/court-judicial-issues/bp-v-buckler-scope-decided-undecided/ - Wiki: 1982–83 registration and opportunity to object
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/scrutiny-and-accountability/procedural-fairness-notice/1982-83-registration-opportunity-to-object/ - Wiki: 1987 HMLR amalgamation during appeal
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/scrutiny-and-accountability/procedural-fairness-notice/1987-hmlr-amalgamation-during-appeal/ - Wiki: 1877 Bute–Thomas agreement — original not yet obtained
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/evidence-library/ghf-e115-1877-bute-thomas-agreement/ - Wiki: Land Registry titles and newly identified 1924 agreement
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/land-registry-titles/ - Wiki: Anomalies Register (lines of enquiry)
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/anomalies-register/ - Wiki: Missing Records Register
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/missing-records-register/ - Wiki: Master Scrutiny Issue Register
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/scrutiny-and-accountability/master-scrutiny-issue-register/ - Wiki: Records Access Chronology
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/records-access-chronology/ - Wiki: Anticipated Objections and the Family's Answers
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/constructive-criticism-counterarguments/ - Wiki: 1988, Possession and Demolition (press transcripts)
https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/demolition-1988/ - Great House Farm Wiki (archived 10 October 2026)
https://web.archive.org/web/20261010064556/https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com/
How this was prepared
Version 4.4, 21 October 2026. Sion Buckler, grandson of Mary Williams, for the Williams–Buckler family. Drafted with AI assistance from the family's public Wiki registers, its correspondence log and published sources, then checked and approved by the family. Every statement carries a label: on record, Buckler case (named testimony or position), or being sought. Statements that cut against the family's case are shown alongside it. If anything here is wrong, please tell us through the Great House Farm Wiki (greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com). Corrections are made openly, dated, and noted in the change history. Any person or body named here is invited to reply, and replies will be published in full on the Wiki. Source and full change history: github.com/unclehowell/datro, branch 2026-10-22, folder static/2026-10-22.
Tŷ Mawr gerbron y Cyngor
Ar 22 Hydref 2026 bydd Cyngor Cymuned Llandochau yn ystyried Tŷ Mawr (Great House Farm), cartref teulu Williams–Buckler nes iddo gael ei ddymchwel ar 6 Rhagfyr 1988.
Mae'r teulu'n gofyn i'r Cyngor roi eu datganiad ar y cofnod cyhoeddus; gwneud Tŷ Mawr yn eitem sefydlog gyda chynghorydd cyswllt; argymell i'r Senedd y dylid ystyried ymchwiliad annibynnol; ac ysgrifennu i gefnogi datgelu a diogelu'r cofnodion.
Nid yw'r teulu'n ceisio cartref neb yn Church View Close.
Cenhadaeth y Cyngor yw “Gwasanaethu ein cymuned, gwarchod ein hunaniaeth”. Mae Tŷ Mawr yn rhan o'r hunaniaeth honno.
Cyfieithiad drafft o'r crynodeb Saesneg. Croesawn gywiriadau gan siaradwyr Cymraeg.
Prepared by the Williams–Buckler family for the meeting of Thursday 22 October 2026. Testimony is attributed to the named person, and the Buckler case's legal contentions are labelled as such. Fraud, concealment or government involvement has not been established; the family is seeking the records that would test it. This pack concerns Llandough-juxta-Penarth, not Llandough-juxta-Cowbridge or the Great House at Llandow or Aberthin. Online: 2026-10-22.bucklerfamily.estate